X-Men 3: The Last Stand
This review will have mild spoilers, and I will be posting major spoilers in the comments. Consider yourself warned.
Going into this movie, I admit, I was concerned. The 52% Tomatometer rating made me wonder if Brett Ratner had wrecked what Bryan Singer had established with the first two films. There are rough spots, mainly some clunky dialogue, but overall, itโs pretty damn good. This is the X-Men film that you were waiting for.
For those of you who never read the comics and liked the movies, you will like it. The characters are consistent with how theyโve been portrayed in the previous two movies, and the movie does not skimp on doing radical things with them. Some of the characters are changed permanently by the events of the movie. A few of them die. And through it all, thereโs a real sense of finality to this chapter, as well as many interesting possibilities for future installments.
For those of you who are long-time X-geeks, you will still like it. You have to accept that certain things are going to be glossed over or changed, though. The Juggernaut is a mutant, and thereโs apparently no connection between him and Xavier. There is no explanation given for the Beastโs blue fur. Callisto is in there, but there are no Morlocks mentioned. The Phoenix isnโt an alien force, instead itโs something else that actually makes more sense.
I have nitpicks, but they are minor. I was hopeful when I heard Hallie Berry didnโt want to return this time, but instead she got an expanded role which just showcases her bland portrayal of what was a standout character in the comics. Also, apparently you need to be a teenage or twentysomething with facial tattoos and punkish hair to join Magnetoโs Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. Youโre telling me that there arenโt disgruntled clean-cut older mutants out there who would join up with him?
And there was no Sabertooth. Every movie needs more Sabertooth. Donโt let that stop you, though, go see this.
โ Roger
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Cool stuff: The โDays of Future Pastโ simulation in the Danger Room. Killing Cylops, yay! I said โthank youโ to the screen when they showed his tombstone. Digital face-lifts for Xavier and Magneto.
Dumb stuff: Beastโs โOh, my stars and garters,โ a reference to the comics, delivered at exactly the wrong time. R. Lee Ermey stuck in as a voice-over. At least give him some screen time! Not enough Colossus.
About Xavierโs rebirth, do you think this was a disaster plan that he and Moira already set up? Putting that bit after the credits was a great tease. Praise be to Eros for letting us know. However, continuing what they were hinting at with Magneto, maybe this could have worked: Rogue and Iceman are in bed, and Rogue unexpectedly spits out an ice cube.
(This is why I donโt write movies.)
Gotta say, I was a huge fan of the first two films. Came with little to no knowledge of the comics but loved the style of these films and the intelligence of the scripts. The first film clearly blazed a trail for grounded comic book features such as โSpidermanโ and the glorious โBatman Begins.โ But I thought this film REALLY dropped the ball. I was beyond disappointed at the fast food line deliveries, the lack of character development (HOW DO YOU MAKE THE PHOENIX BORING??????) and the overall feeling of a TV movie with A-list effects.
Full review to come, but it was a big thumbs-down for me. And while I do enjoy mutant-on-mutant battles, stunts and effects do not float my boat without a story I care about. Not gonna say it wasnโt fun but when the biggest movie of the summerโs biggest innovention is a Holodeck, you know youโre in troubleโฆ.
Gotta say, I was a huge fan of the first two films. Came with little to no knowledge of the comics but loved the style of these films and the intelligence of the scripts. The first film clearly blazed a trail for grounded comic book features such as โSpidermanโ and the glorious โBatman Begins.โ But I thought this film REALLY dropped the ball. I was beyond disappointed at the fast food line deliveries, the lack of character development (HOW DO YOU MAKE THE PHOENIX BORING??????) and the overall feeling of a TV movie with A-list effects.
Full review to come, but it was a big thumbs-down for me. And while I do enjoy mutant-on-mutant battles, stunts and effects do not float my boat without a story I care about. Not gonna say it wasnโt fun but when the biggest movie of the summerโs biggest innovention is a Holodeck, you know youโre in troubleโฆ.
I agree that the downsides you mentioned were definitely there, but they werenโt major enough for me to discount the good stuff.
The โholodeckโ Danger Room has been a staple of the X-Men books for at least 20 years now. Iโm pretty sure thatโs where the Star Trek writers got the idea from.
One more thing: I really liked how the chain of disastrous events is kicked off by Wolverine. The conflict between him and Xavier is completely in line with his character โ heโs had his head screwed with so many times as a result of the Weapon X program, the idea of someone else having that done to them is abhorrent to him.
I liked 1 & Loved 2. 3 was not worse than i expected, but it was every bit as irritating as i feared. Ratner is the true mutation here. I never thought McKellen could be boring. Yowzers.
Ex-franchise.
Just got back so allow me to nitpick:
I hate Brett Ratner. I didnโt hate this movie, but I thought it was way below par. The nits:
โ Angel. Glad he was onboard just long enough to save his dad, and not do much else.
โ Leech. Why not just throw him โFastball Specialโ-style at Phoenix?
โ The tranny mutants. Go away.
โ The bad one-liners. And I thought โWhat happens to a frog when itโs hit by lightningโ was the end of it all.
โ Magnetoโs master plan: Of storming Alcatraz by moving an entire bridge, just to kill one little boy. Brilliant!
โ Again, little Russell sad that he couldnโt get into Claireโs pants and be a famous artist shows up again to save the day with a โI heard this is a safe place for mutantsโ. Maybe he is an angel?
โ How can Ratner, the alleged party animal and womanizer, take over the reins from Bryan โBoy Magnetoโ Singer, and make it more gay?
โ Twenty years agoโฆ yeah right, did Famke protest โI must be portrayed as late twenties, early thirties!!!โ โ Sheโs looking worse off than โpresent-dayโ Magneto
โ Ten years agoโฆ um, why did we need this story set-up?
โ And finally, since when was the Danger Room just a simulation? Iโm not a comic fan so donโt consider this a true nitpick, but I always envisioned it as an actual mechanical, albeit amazingly sophisticated, contraption. Glad it wasnโt a true Sentinel though โ though I thought that coulda been neat.
All in all, pretty disappointed with this one. But Iโd rather have 100 Kelsey Grammar Beasts than one, just one, Sexy Beast.
I think the Danger Room had holographic technology as far back as the late 70s when the comic was relaunched.
In the comics, Trask (Bill Dukeโs character) is the guy who builds the Sentinels, so maybe theyโre setting that up for a future movie.
It looks like the movie made enough money this weekend that we may see both proposed spinoffs made (the Magneto and Wolverine movies).
โHow can Ratner, the alleged party animal and womanizer, take over the reins from Bryan โBoy Magnetoโ Singer, and make it more gay? โ
The best point youโve ever made, Eros.
I agree.
I did not hate it after i saw it, but, the more i think back about this film, the more i do hate it. Even things i thought were the โgood partsโ are now appearing more and more sloppy in my mind.
Case in pointโฆwhen Xavier โdiesโโฆhow can this pivitol moment be SO un-involving..so non-moving?
Also โ i had no idea what โdark pheonixโ would be likeโฆother than part good and part badโฆbut dudesโฆseriouslyโฆshe just basically stands around the whole time. The only scene with her that interested me was her moment with wolverine pleading for him to kill her. cool stuff. on paper. not on the screen. i say one of the greater fuck upโs of all time with this one.
120.1 in the 4 day?! Cocks on the wall and fuck me slanted.
I still cannot believe it made that much. 85, yes. 95 even. But 120โฆthis is not cool. This tells a studio that it is OK to rush a film into production without a solid script. This tells a studio it is OK to work with Ratner. This tells a studio that they actually know what theyโre doing. This is NOT good.
Letโs try and think of all the major part IIIโ3 that veered their franchises off trackโฆ
X3. T3. Superman 3. Alien 3.
Posted my own review, with a few major opinions โ it rambles, but youโll get the gist. Scroll to the bottom and I vent on some of the third sequels that Cybergosh mentionedโฆ